Guest Posted August 12, 2014 Report Posted August 12, 2014 I would love to be able to calculate fudl for my pmdg 738 gor fs9, but I can't find info. :(
Guest Posted August 12, 2014 Report Posted August 12, 2014 Hi Simon I wrote this some time ago. It will give you the fuel for a for a trip allowing for full Pax load. it is designed for the 777 but just substitute the fuel burn figures Then change tour trip and alternate distances on the last page and you will land with the correct fuel or enough it is only a guide but I use it all the time and never run out of fuel. https://www.dropbox.com/s/rzw5n49ifj8vdjx/final%20setup%20fuel%20planning.docx
Guest Posted August 12, 2014 Report Posted August 12, 2014 Thanks Mike, that looks a great doc. Where do I find the burn info for 738 though. I have searched the net and found nothing diffinative!
Guest Posted August 12, 2014 Report Posted August 12, 2014 Simon If you read it all as it say's you only need to work out trip fuel and alternative fuel once you know your base fuel .
Guest Posted August 12, 2014 Report Posted August 12, 2014 Maybe I'm doing something wrong. I have worked out my base fuel as 21855Lbs!!! Ground OPs 30 min 4500 45 min reserve 5355 30 min holding 4800 sid/star 7200 base fuel 21855 Lbs just had a quick look at lmml to egss and that give take off fuel of 26997 Lbs. So that gives me about 6000 for trip + alternate? Where am I going wrong???
Guest Posted August 12, 2014 Report Posted August 12, 2014 Did you calculate the base fuel for the 737-800. ? You only need to do this once but it is obviously different to the 777 mike
Guest Posted August 12, 2014 Report Posted August 12, 2014 That's what I worked out I know I used 30 min holding and 45 min for the Sid/star and I may well land with most of that. Just not sure where I went wrong. No doubt judt my brain!!!
Guest Posted August 12, 2014 Report Posted August 12, 2014 Hi Simon I will do a conversion for the 737-800 at 1000nm and you will see ho simple it is mike
Guest Posted August 12, 2014 Report Posted August 12, 2014 Great thanks, I think I understand, just seems too much fuel to carry. But maybe I have just got used to carry not enough!!
Guest Posted August 12, 2014 Report Posted August 12, 2014 Great thanks, I think I understand, just seems too much fuel to carry. But maybe I have just got used to carry not enough!! Hi Look at this specially for you New Edit https://www.dropbox.com/s/prbjdoh65s7xn8i/NEW%20setup%20737800%20fuel%20planning.docx It is just 100nm short of your trip but it works forget the fuel burn on the top it is for the 777just use the737800 figures mike
Guest Posted August 12, 2014 Report Posted August 12, 2014 Thanks, that looks better. However how do u get the fuel burn of 1825Lbs per half hour? The burn on the table on previous page says 9000Lbs/hr so half of that would be 4500Lbs
Guest Posted August 12, 2014 Report Posted August 12, 2014 Thanks, that looks better. However how do u get the fuel burn of 1825Lbs per half hour? The burn on the table on previous page says 9000Lbs/hr so half of that would be 4500Lbs Correct I done the new one for the 737=800 with the Dog barking The Wife nagging If you cant edit that copy I will do it :wacko: The fuel burns are ok just check the Mathmatics The 777 and the 737 are two different files on dropbox mike
Guest Posted August 12, 2014 Report Posted August 12, 2014 Lol thats ok I get it. Yey! Will give it a go with a flight in the next couple of days.
Guest Posted August 12, 2014 Report Posted August 12, 2014 Lol thats ok I get it. Yey! Will give it a go with a flight in the next couple of days. I will pull the 737-800 of and edit it and replace it with the new one . but you get the idea :unsure: mike
UKV2041 - Keith Giannoni Posted August 12, 2014 Report Posted August 12, 2014 Great addition, Chris. Just a thought. The routes can be accessed by non members. Thus if anyone wishes to be lazy and use our routes etc, they can copy/paste or simply load the route straight into their FMCs. Might this be something that only signed in members have access to? Apologies if this has already mentioned in which case I missed it in the posts. Keith 1
UKV1121 - Chris Sutcliffe Posted August 13, 2014 Author Report Posted August 13, 2014 Great addition, Chris. Just a thought. The routes can be accessed by non members. Thus if anyone wishes to be lazy and use our routes etc, they can copy/paste or simply load the route straight into their FMCs. Might this be something that only signed in members have access to? Apologies if this has already mentioned in which case I missed it in the posts. Keith Hi Keith, I hadn't really thought about that, good point. I am not convinced it's really a problem if non members have access to our routes. There are lots of places to find or generate routes online nowadays, I can't imagine non members would come to our site just for that, and if they did then I'm not sure its really a massive problem. Regards,
UKV2041 - Keith Giannoni Posted August 14, 2014 Report Posted August 14, 2014 Nor I, in truth. It was a post on Face Book by the CEO of a new FlyBe VA looking to create and build routes that made me think of this. Leave it to you and the Team. Keith
Guest UKV1628 - Posted August 14, 2014 Report Posted August 14, 2014 Can't see it being a major issue. If anything it may generate more interest in the VA and maybe get a few more members.
Guest Posted August 15, 2014 Report Posted August 15, 2014 About half of our new members have heard about us either on the internet (by search) or on the on-line (IVAO VatSim) services. Fuel calcs. On your training flights your flight logbook should give you fuel used to cruise height. = A. That's a constant for FlyUK routes (as high as possible usually). It's easy then to get the fuel burn per 100 or 1000 miles which you can apply to the route mileage = B. And a reserve, sufficient to divert but at least 30 mins at 10,000ft. = C. That's a constant. So for any given aircraft it's difficult to work out, surely. A + B(kgs/nm) x Range + C = Fuel. Now I know some of us are old and need chalk and a roof tile to do their maths, but really you guys - do you have that little confidence in your abilities.
Guest Posted August 17, 2014 Report Posted August 17, 2014 Hi Look at this specially for you New Edit https://www.dropbox.com/s/prbjdoh65s7xn8i/NEW%20setup%20737800%20fuel%20planning.docx It is just 100nm short of your trip but it works forget the fuel burn on the top it is for the 777just use the737800 figures mike Hi Mike Would there be any change i could have a read of the document sounds like something right up my street as looking also at calculating most of my fuel manually just for the fun of it :rolleyes: Many Thanks
Guest Posted August 17, 2014 Report Posted August 17, 2014 Hi Graham https://www.dropbox.com/s/lxtx7h51bd37fwl/setup%20737800%20fuel%20planning.pdf ( 737-800) PDF https://www.dropbox.com/s/y1defci9g7hcmsi/777final%20setup%20fuel%20planning.docx ( 777) Opens with microsoft word
Guest Posted August 17, 2014 Report Posted August 17, 2014 Hi Graham https://www.dropbox.com/s/lxtx7h51bd37fwl/setup%20737800%20fuel%20planning.pdf ( 737-800) PDF https://www.dropbox.com/s/y1defci9g7hcmsi/777final%20setup%20fuel%20planning.docx ( 777) Opens with microsoft word Thank you looking forward to reading them B)
Guest UKV1316 - Posted August 24, 2014 Report Posted August 24, 2014 Just a plain "thank you Chris" for this time saver Cheers Howard
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